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Jim Manasco is one of those individuals you just want to sit down with, listen & take notes. He is truly amazing. Reason for this little note is to tell you about something he wrote that sounds VERY familiar. Here is a link so you can read it yourself. http://wcgs.ala.nu/rockyplains.htm
From family sources it seems our Nancy BROWN is the daughter of the John BROWN who was principal chief of the western Cherokee in 1838. His father is Richard (Col. Dick) BROWN who fought with Andrew JACKSON in the Creek War. Richard's father is the JB I call Creek Path John Brown. I have this line back a couple of more generations which I can post here sometime. Getting back to Jim Manasco, if you are interested, go out to this link in which you will find references to a Nancy BROWN who traveled around the area on horseback tending to the ailing. Manasco is guessing this Nancy is his kin who married Elijah Sides. I think Manasco learned of the horseback Nancy from Walker County records. We learned about a horseback Nancy thru family stories.
I'd love to take a trip to Walker/Winston county area of Alabama. I'd like to look over the local histories which seem to mention this herbal doctor Nancy BROWN and find out more about her. This time it is the family story that is tugging at me to find out more. I also want to meet with JIm Manasco. I've visited with him already on the phone. Amazing the stuff this guy knows. He claims to also be descended from Creek Path John Brown and seems to know quite a bit about his father, Richard. For now I feel I want to disagree with Jim on one point, however. I don't think the Nancy BROWN who was the herbal doctor married Elijah SIDES. I think BROWN was her married name and her husband is Chief John BROWN. Well, this is all still part of the shreds of our family story yet to be patched back together. I've been studying the Cherokee Browns for about six years or more. Really interesting family.
Regards, Cousin Sheila For clarification for our group, I also keep contact with "cousins" related to and interested in a broader group of Cherokee Browns. Wylie & Mary: I direct this to you most specifically because I know you have recently found info on our BROWN family; but I am sending this thru our group because I know many others are interested in this also. On Friday, one of our Brown contacts sent me a copy of a Guion-Miller application you may have missed because it was found among the applications out of the Choctaw Nation. I will paste it in following my remarks about it.
Background: If family tradition is correct, our Nancy Brown who married Stephen Shelton is the daughter of Chief John Brown who was head of the Old Settlers at the time the eastern Chief John Ross arrived from the Trail of Tears in 1838. We believe this Chief John Brown to be the son of Richard Brown & Richard to be the son of Creek Path John Brown. (That's a name I gave to distinguish him from the many other John Browns of the Cherokee Nation.)
This Miller application is of interest because of the connection to Jolly. History tells us that John Jolly was chief of the Old Settlers until his death in 1838. During the tenure of Jolly, John Brown served as "second chief" or second in command to Chief Jolly. John Brown became chief after Jolly died in 1838. Since history reveals a close association between John Brown & John Jolly, the name on this Miller application is of special interest. I suspect John Jolly Brown is on our branch of the Cherokee Brown tree which makes this an exciting find. Let's study it more & see what we can learn. Discussion, comments questions welcome. Cousin Sheila
> Miller #35805, Rejected > John Jolly Brown, McAlester > age 52 (1907 born 1855 Choctaw Nation > Father: john Brown, Cherokee died 1852 (father should be Richard) > Mother: Lucy Walker, Choctaw, died 1862 > Grandparents: John Brown & Unknown > Grandparents: Tandy Walker and Miss Beams > No brothers or sisters > Drew money on myself, father and Betsey Brown, my aunt. (Old Settlers). > > Affidavit of Henry Brown, 56, Sequoyah Co. > A colored man who was owned by John Brown, A Cherokee and resident of > Illinois Dist. > > Said John Brown Cherokee names was Skau-zah Brown or Oo-a?? - this John > Brown was a brother of the father of the applicant whose name was O-si Brown or > ___ - and resided in Skin Bayou Dist as I remember. This O-si as well as I > remember was called Dick Brown - my master Skau-zah or John Brown always claimed > this applicants father Dick or O-si was his brother - Skau-zah or John Brown was > at one time sheriff of Illinois Dist. As to applicant - I recognize him to be > the son of said Osi or Dick Brown. > > > Testimony of John J. Brown: > I claim relationship to the Cherokee Indians through my father, Richard Brown. > My grandfather was John Brown. My father Richard Brown was an Old Settler. > > > > > John Jolly Brown enrolled with Dawes as a Choctaw. >
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